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Khoory & Co. Trading
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1.1
Rule number 1
- Everything eventually
falls
Rule number 2
- Usually the
day after the
warranty runs
out
Rule number 3
- The preverse
nature of machines
requires them
to fail when you
are expecting
the greatest number
of guests
Before you even
read this : Go
out and turn the
pumps circuit
breakers off ,then
on again or replace
the fuses with
new ones. If it
runs, listen for
water running
when or where
it shouldn't.
Gice your pressure
gage a thump and
make sure it works,
if not replace
it first so you
can tell what
is going on.
Basic Complaint:
1. No
water
A. Motor runs
- you can hear
it or feel the
pipe vibrate or
amp check if you
havean amprobe.
a) Hole in drop
pipe or coupling,
bleeder valve
blown out.
b) Massive leak
in your system.
Pump is delivering
water just not
where you want
it to go.
c) Jammed or backward
check valve. It
happens.
d) Pump is out
of the water
e) Pump inlet
screen plugged.
Very rare.
f) Pump worn out.
Impellers worn.
If it has pumped
sand or is very
old this is possible.
g) Pump shaft
broken or coupling
stripped. Very
rare these days.
h) Pump air locked.
j) Water level
has dropped so
far pump can't
lift to surface.
B. Motor doesn't
run
a) No power to
pump - this is
the most common
thing.
b) Motor failed
c) Wires down
well broken or
bad splice.
d) Control box
problem, bad capacitor
or relay or cover
is not on.
e) Pressure switch
problem - easy
to fix but usually
wishful thinking.
1) Look at the
contacts. If they
aren't closed
figure out why.
The switch thinks
the pressure is
at shutoff level.
Did it freeze
last night?
Possibly bad pressure
switch or plugged
inlet.
2) Burned contacts
don't mean much.
Bugs in the contacts
are a common problem.Clean
them off with
the eraser end
of a wooden pencil.
These contacts
are always
electrically hot.
f) Overload tripped.
Look for a red
button on or under
control box.
g) Pump locked
up.
h) Both wires
to motor or control
box are connected
to the same leg
in the panel.
2. Not
enough water,
or pressure -
motor runs, perhaps
runs all the time
A. Leaks - surprisingly
small leaks can
lose a lot of
water. Common
problem.
a) Leaks in your
house system.
Shut off line
between tank and
house and see
if pump builds
up pressure normally.
b) Down the well:
Holes in drop
pipe or bleeder
valve.
B. Pump problems
a) Pump too small
for demand
b) Pump impellers
worn by sand
c) Water level
has dropped below
what pump is designed
for
d) Check valve
jammed either
down well or on
surface.
The nut can also
come off the plunger
and improper pipe
fittings can prevent
plunger travel.
e) Plugged inlet
screen. Very rare.
f) No water in
well or pump not
set deep enough.
g) Motor coupling
stripped or shaft
broken. Sometimes
can still pump.
C. Tank problems
a) Waterlogged
tank will cause
pump to go on
and off continually.
This also results
in apparent low
pressure. This
is very common.
b) Surface check
valve stuck open
allowing water
to run back down
the well or stuck
closed preventing
water from
getting up.
D. Electrical
problems
a) Improper connections
at control box.
If color codes
were not kept
the pump will
attempt to start
on the
run winding and
will not be able
to continue running
b) Low voltage.
230 volt pumps
will run on 115
volts but not
very well and
will cut out and
reset.
This happens when
one pole of a
two pole circuit
breaker has tripped.
Pull both poles
all the way to
off,
then back to on.
c) Motor has internal
short which is
not bad enough
to make it stop
totally but results
in intermittent
operation
or less than full
speed operation.
This is a frequent
motor death mode.
3. Bad water
A. Milky -air
or gas in water.
1) Natural entrained
air or gas - not
much you can do
about it.
2) Tank air problem
a) Bad air volume
control
b) Pumping water
level too low
allowing air to
be sucked into
pump
c) Excessive draw
from tank allows
air into house
lines
B. Sandy - well
problem, made
worse by frequent
starts, well driller
problem
C. Tastes bad
- try an activated
carbon filter
D. Looks bad -
particulates in
water, try a cartridge
filter
E. Stains sink
-Iron and/or manganese
in water, water
treatment problem
F. Stinks - hydrogen
sulfide gas or
methane
G. Slime in strainers
- iron bacteria,
chlorinate well
4. Fuses
blow, breakers
trip, overloads
trip
A. Happens immediately
when power applied
to motor
1) Short to ground
in motor, cables
or supply wires
to pressure switch.
Remove control
box cover or disconnect
leads to motor
to see where the
problem is.
Shorts make things
trip very fast.
2) Worn out breaker,
wrong size breaker,
non-time delay
fuses can't take
starting current.
3) Control box
problem causing
start winding
in motor not to
operate. Usually
times several
seconds to trip.
4) Low voltage
5) Pump locked
up
B. Happens when
motor has been
running
1) Low voltage
2) Short cycling,
too many starts
3) Control box
too hot due to
sun or other heat
source.
4) Control box
problem - bad
capacitor, relay,
or wrong size
5) Fuses or overloads
too small.
6) Circuit breakers
worn out - they
will only trip
so many times.
7) Frequent low
head starting
causing up thrust
8) Worn pump -
usually causes
low amps but can
also cause high
amps.
9) Pumping a lot
of sand.
10) Wires too
small or contacts
somewhere very
bad causing high
voltage drop.
11) Well is so
crooked the pump
and moor have
been forced into
a bind. You have
to work at it
to create this
one.
5. Pumps
starts and stops
too often. This
is very hard on
submersible pumps
and motors.
A. Water logged
tank.
1) Galvanized
tank
a) No air charging
system - drain
tank and open
a fitting to break
vacuum.
This can always
be used as a temporary
fix on any tank.
b) Air leak in
tank above water
level
c) Surface check
valve is leaking
and preventing
snifter valve
from taking in
air.
d) Snifter valve
(usually screwed
into check valve)
is not working.
It should suck
in air every time
the pump stops.
Frequent problem
area.
e) Bleeder in
well is not letting
water leak out
of the pipe so
air can be sucked
in by the snifter.
f) Pump runs constantly
and so never cycles
to put air in
tank.
g) Air volume
control letting
too much air out.
2) Bladder tank
a) Bladder is
ruptured. Tank
will feel heavy
and water will
come out of tire
core valve on
top of tank. b)
Tank has too little
pre-charge air
in it or, too
much. It needs
to be just right
which is 2 pounds
less than the
start pressure
of the pump, measured
with the tank
drained and the
pump off.
B. Air logged
tank - air volume
control bad or
too much air being
pumped in.
C. Defective pressure
switch or set
wrong
D. Tank too small
for pump size
and demand.
E. Check valve
on surface may
be jammed or partially
open
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1.2
This is for people
who are familiar
with electricity
and have a voltmeter,
ammeter and ohmmeter
and enough common
sense not to fry
themselves.
There are two
basic symptoms:
1)
Motor does not
run
2)
Something trips
out
1)
Motor does not
run
A) Makes no sounds
- this most likely
means no power
to motor. First
make sure you
have put he cover
back on the control
box if it is 1
HP or less.
Start at the pressure
switch with the
switch wedged
open with a non-conductor
and measure voltage
leg to leg-AND
to ground.
If you do not
have 230 volts
(unless it is
a rare 115 volt
motor) trace back
to the circuit
breaker or fuse
box. If you have
115 volts to ground
on both legs at
the pressure switch,
you have both
legs on the same
hot leg and thus
zero potential
difference between
them. Put one
leg on the other
hot leg.
If you have 115
volts to ground
on one leg and
zero on the other,
one wire is broken
or one half of
the 230 volt breaker
is defective or
tripped.
If everything
is zero at the
pressure switch
the wires are
broken or the
breaker is bad,
or tripped, or
the main power
is out.
If everything
checks out then
there is an open
in the motor or
in the control
box or the wiring
to the motor.
Start by disconnecting
the power at the
breaker then di
sconnecting the
wires that go
down the well
from the control
box. Use an ohm
meter to check
for continuity
between all three
wires (or two
if it is a two
wire pump). Also
check each leg
to ground. All
should be infinity
or at least 10
megohms to ground.
The resistances
leg to leg are
small. The yellow
is common and
the yellow red
(start)should
be more than the
black(run) to
yellow. An open
indicates a broken
wire, bad splice
or bad motor.
A low resistance
to ground indicates
a bad motor or
sub cables that
are damaged.
B) Motor
hums, buzzes .
This
is either low
voltage, a bad
control box, mixed
wire color code
, shorted motor.
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